tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post109022603488475444..comments2024-03-12T11:03:59.528+02:00Comments on Living in Egypt: 15 Minutes of FameMaryanne Stroud Gabbanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00858132776788616956noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1091077261491755082004-07-29T08:01:00.000+03:002004-07-29T08:01:00.000+03:00A few comments from an American man. Please do not...A few comments from an American man. Please do not be so naive to think that you are being fair to separate your "love" for the American people, from your hate of the Government. Remember that the foreign policy is America's not Bush's. Our government has great checks and balances to prevent authoritative moves. 100% of the congress approved our Iraq policy and funding, and other foreign policies and most Americans agree with it or it wouldn't take place. Partisan politicians are squealing a lot during an election year,and there is always bitter debate. Foreigners like you confuse that with policy. It is genuine, but internal. <br /><br />The bottom line? If you hate the American government, you hate me too. That is not through blind patriotism, but because I think we are truly a huge factor in the good going on in the world. We can be trusted to be there when we are needed. We keep our word and are as consistent as the world allows. You surely have not read the "Neo-cons" if you have decided they want world domination! That is nonsense! They want freedom and autonomy of nations, not colonialism and conquering. That is just a fact. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of America if you think we are all at odds with George Bush, or if you think that America wants world domination.<br /><br />Amererica might be seen as arrogant and pushy, but this is a crime worse than dictatorship and genocide? Please! U.S. certainly has to watch out for its own interests, but really - it is arguably done great good with its power, and will continue to do so. Look at the foreign aid, assistance in disasters, liberation of people, spending our resources for the benefit of others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090545239756767252004-07-23T04:13:00.000+03:002004-07-23T04:13:00.000+03:00It's great that you're happy. It really is. I wish...It's great that you're happy. It really is. I wish you nothing less. But you *do* bash America. You praise Egypt, then take a swipe at the U.S. suggesting that it somehow objectively could not be as good. That's how you feel. But surely you realize many people feel differently. So what? It's personal preference, not a matter of which country is "better." Why does it have to be a contest where one country "wins" and another "loses?"<br /><br />As for the news. Ha. Sure, in the U.S. it's filtered. But it's naive to think that makes "Egyptian news" better or more true or more honest. Just because they say "a" in the U.S. and "b" in Egypt doesn't mean that "a" is wrong and "b" is somehow right. Also, the principles of objectivity and responsibility are what prevent the publication of a lot of things in the U.S. press that you might hear somewhere else. And most important, no adult in the United States is prevented from reading anything at any time -- you just have to make a little effort. If you choose not to read widely in the United States, it's your own business and your own fault, hardly the fault of the "U.S. government."<br /><br />And please. The people *do* elect their government in the United States. You can't have it both ways, saying you love the people of the U.S. while constantly bashing the people they've duly elected to represent them. That's dishonest.<br /><br />I have absolutely no problem with your personal Egyptian paradise. It sounds like you are very happy there. I just don't understand why the underside of your commentary always has to be a contrast with Europe or North America. It strikes me as a little juvenile.<br /><br />Seriously, though, I'm really, really glad you are happy there. It sounds ideal for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090347213851847352004-07-20T21:13:00.000+03:002004-07-20T21:13:00.000+03:00Me, I'm an unmarried 29yr old woman who lived in G...Me, I'm an unmarried 29yr old woman who lived in Greece for just under 2 years. I went by myself, knowing no one with a mostly fantasy awareness of what a life there would be like. I was going to change the world. Ha.<br /><br />I remember going to Greek school (in Athens) and meeting an American woman, with Oriental/Asian descent, and hearing her say that she hadn't noticed much racism in Greece. I just about died. Me, I look Greek, so I can't say I experienced racism, but I sure saw it and I was on the streets talking to average Greeks all the time. I'm not blaming the Greeks, but as with many other countries I've visited, they are not nearly as exposed to other colors of skin as we are in North America. My 4 friends visited, with Chinese, Japanese, and Indian backgrouds (read: non-white), and all thoroughly Canadian in culture, and I went out and had to go to 5 different bars before finally one let us in, the others giving us various excuses as to why they wouldn't. We'd be walking down the street and people would do Karate chops and stuff. I was embarassed to have a Greek background in those moments, but fortunately the boys didn't seem take it too personally. As an explanation, Greece has only had their doors open to real immigration for 10yrs and if you look at Canadian history they are where we were years and years ago. Anyway, back to my original comment. When this Asian-American woman said that, I thought, "my god, how is this possible?" How could she not see it? How could I, as a white woman, be more aware and exposed to racism than this non-white woman? It's easy really. And I quickly understand why. <br /><br />This was the first time in my life that I moved from my middle-class background into a different level of life, a class lower on the social and economic hierarchy. This is something that I think rarely happens to a lot of people in this world. We only know what we experience--I mean really know, in our hearts, not just intellectually. We may be aware of poverty, and seen the pictures, met people, watched programs..but we have never really felt what that feels like, in our hearts, in our souls, in that part of us that keeps ticking when our heads do not. I wasn't living in real poverty, because I had found work, and friends to live with, and most importantly because I had Canada to return to, with the knowledge that I could return to assured full time work at any time. I always had that option. But while I was there, my life and the challenges I met on a dialy bases, were beyond anything I had ever experienced before, and those experiences change me for life. <br /><br />This woman that I was talking to, like many other women in the Greek school I enrolled in, was married to a Greek man with a successful business and was living a very comfortable life. There is one truth that applies no matter where you life: if you have money, you can live a good life almost anywhere. She was protected from racism by means of her social standing. There are things that I saw, as a single woman travelling alone, and people that I met and sat on the curb with on a scortching summer night, that she probably would never talk to, in her social mileau, and her big house with air-con (not that I blame her, I'd probably have done the same had I an option). Likely she was spending most of her time socializing with other well-to-do Greeks who were highly exposed to North Americans. And anyway, the rich Greeks want to be anything but Greek nowadays. They want to buy European cars, and couches imported from France and Italy, and send all their children to school in America. They want to escape their history, and their wars and any remnants of the 400 year Turkish occupation, in any way they can. It may not be on a conscious level, but it's there, passed down from their parents and the air of liberation and escapism. <br /><br />We live life as we experience it. We see around us what we feel inside. This is how you can have two women living in Egypt one talking about how she will probably never return to America, with a voice of comfort and satisfaction with her life in Egypt, despite the challenges, and another woman living in the same country using words like shame, and suffering, instead, and you can hear the pain and frustration that just goes to a deeper level. In the end our differences come from the same shared condition, the human condition. We all respond to our environments.Marilanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17349237491783440002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090290533108270212004-07-20T05:28:00.000+03:002004-07-20T05:28:00.000+03:00to the last anonymous...
Maybe you lived in the US...to the last anonymous...<br />Maybe you lived in the USA too long!!! All countries in the world think about what you call the "conspiracy theory"; their media play scenes that the US mainstream media don't ever play. They have read the "Project for the New American Century" by the neocons, including Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Jebb Bush, Richard Perle, and co. If you read the neocons literature, you cannot say that there is no plan to dominate the world. After all, the USA has the right to do that; all empires did, why not the USA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090272409574010572004-07-20T00:26:00.000+03:002004-07-20T00:26:00.000+03:00[quote]No one is happy with the Bush administratio...[quote]No one is happy with the Bush administration's forays into world domination[/quote]<br /><br />Looks like you have bought into this conspiracy theory also. Maybe you have lived in Egypt for too long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090271140363074392004-07-20T00:05:00.000+03:002004-07-20T00:05:00.000+03:00Sorry, with all my respect to your blogs, saying t...Sorry, with all my respect to your blogs, saying that women in Egypt have problems AS any women in the world is a bit simplistic.<br />We have serious problems in Egypt; you seem to live away from the city and don't know what happens daily in the streets. Are you veiled? If you are not, don't try to walk in any Cairo street at night. It's normal but disgusting to have thousands staring at you, saying all kind of rubbish about your body, hair, legs, asking to marry you, to ... you. Walk in any street of Cairo in a skirt, and count the "indecent proposals". Ride a Cairo bus, or even the 2-pounds air-conditioned bus, and the guy next to you will try to touch, the one behind you will press the chair, etc... Have you experienced any of these? Being fair to Egypt means also saying the bad things Egyptians are doing. These are minor examples we suffer from, not to mention how does the society look at unmarried women who are older than 25, or -even worse- divorced women. I think Egyptian males need serious therapy to change their look to their peer-women (at work, home and everywhere). Furthermore, there are serious issues that take place only in the bedrooms and are taboos: beating wives, female circumcision, man's right to marry more than a woman and keep them in the same house!!! I can't say more. If you post your email, I'll tell you more things in private that I'm even ashamed to mention here. We really suffer in Egypt!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090270557293286682004-07-19T23:55:00.000+03:002004-07-19T23:55:00.000+03:00Have you considered Virginia's suggestion of publi...Have you considered Virginia's suggestion of publishing in print. It's not really about money, but many people will enjoy and learn.<br />I also fell on an Iraqi girl's Blog riverbend.blogspot.com; I'm praying she is still alive.<br />So how do you feel with 22 comments on yesterday's blog- most of them authentic and positive?Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08558903851142869523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090257655027129732004-07-19T20:20:00.000+03:002004-07-19T20:20:00.000+03:00The price of fame...
Fame is good! but you will ha...The price of fame...<br />Fame is good! but you will have to keep answering our curious questions.<br />Why don't you switch gears a little bit and tell us WHO ARE YOU?<br />What do you like.. what are you like? A photo of you will help us know who this strong-willed eloquent woman is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090254452324424482004-07-19T19:27:00.000+03:002004-07-19T19:27:00.000+03:00I just wanted to write to say how much I enjoy rea...I just wanted to write to say how much I enjoy reading your commentary about cross-cultural marriage. I too am an American woman married to an Arab man, and I constantly have to deal with people who think that I am being oppressed. I am very tired of the ignorant Orientalist views that persist in the U.S. <br /><br />I have made your blog required reading among my friends and academic colleagues. Good luck in all your endeavors. Your writing is so inspiring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090246565166753302004-07-19T17:16:00.000+03:002004-07-19T17:16:00.000+03:00The views on news filtration in the US is a fact. ...The views on news filtration in the US is a fact. I am an indian living in the US for the last 2 years and i now believe theres better freedom of the press every where else than in the US.<br /><br />I know we can comment on our leaders and not go to jail ona libel suit. Not so. As an average American is not informed, their mind is also not developed. I have yet to find a thinking American.. Very sad..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090246460484937652004-07-19T17:14:00.000+03:002004-07-19T17:14:00.000+03:00The art of successful blogging, just like the art ...The art of successful blogging, just like the art of writing a book or a screenplay, is to write about what you know and write it well. You do both.J-Birdshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14003035044504249007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-1090233469960814092004-07-19T13:37:00.000+03:002004-07-19T13:37:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.s.s.a.yhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523236666945637706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203628.post-109025714496807372004-07-19T20:12:00.000+03:002004-07-19T20:12:00.000+03:00Mr. Sameh, you sound very much like a professional...Mr. Sameh, you sound very much like a professional flirter! You're asking for advice to live in your own country?? What a shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com